Thursday, July 28, 2005
hydro one professional engineers strike - end of week 8
the strikers are starting to look really dumb now that they have been standing outside in the heat from 8 weeks. the view from most on the inside at h1 is that the strikers are not even needed. in effect with the help of some consultants, and students, the jobs of 10 people are being carried out by 3-4. even with record heat, all the rhetoric of massive power failures have been unfounded. if management maintains its position and strikers stay out another 2 months, they (strikers) will be begging to come back to work accepting a pay cut, and a reduction in their numbers. they should have just taken the original offer of a longer work week and 3% pay increase.
another note is that most of the strikers say they are striking for me - students and the unborn. management wants to pay full time employees hired in the future 10% less for the same work as current employees. my message - thanks for your concern, but don't worry about me. there are far greater social injustices in the world. if i want to work for 10% less i will. if not, i'll work somewhere else.
i'm not anti union. i am anti stupidity. smart unions forge mutually beneficial relationships and know when to compromise. dumb unions are the nhl players. they resisted a salary cap in their original offer. then they proceeded to give up a year of pay, accepted a 25% pay cut, and accepted a lower salary cap than what they were initially offered.
the strikers are starting to look really dumb now that they have been standing outside in the heat from 8 weeks. the view from most on the inside at h1 is that the strikers are not even needed. in effect with the help of some consultants, and students, the jobs of 10 people are being carried out by 3-4. even with record heat, all the rhetoric of massive power failures have been unfounded. if management maintains its position and strikers stay out another 2 months, they (strikers) will be begging to come back to work accepting a pay cut, and a reduction in their numbers. they should have just taken the original offer of a longer work week and 3% pay increase.
another note is that most of the strikers say they are striking for me - students and the unborn. management wants to pay full time employees hired in the future 10% less for the same work as current employees. my message - thanks for your concern, but don't worry about me. there are far greater social injustices in the world. if i want to work for 10% less i will. if not, i'll work somewhere else.
i'm not anti union. i am anti stupidity. smart unions forge mutually beneficial relationships and know when to compromise. dumb unions are the nhl players. they resisted a salary cap in their original offer. then they proceeded to give up a year of pay, accepted a 25% pay cut, and accepted a lower salary cap than what they were initially offered.
# posted by epn : 12:49 PM
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can you now negotiate with the employers to just forget all the striking workers and pay the consultants and students twice as much? since you guys are doing twice the work... ha
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# posted by 
: 3:05 PM, July 28, 2005
: 3:05 PM, July 28, 2005
i support unions for blue collar workers. low/no/semi-skilled workers *need* unions. for a close-to-home example of what happens when they don't, take a look at the effect of Right-To-Work policies in the Southern States. Because of the nature of this type of work, collective bargaining is crucial. These are the people unions were intended for.
i am very *anti-union* for professionals (ex. engineers). As one, I don't want anyone negotiating MY salary for me. For professionals, unions often stifle productivity and the opportunity for advancement (of motivated workers) within a company. For highly skilled work, it makes no sense to tie promotions to seniority in *any* way. Often these types of unions make it hard for younger members of staff to advance, by tying promotions to seniority. Companies tend to withhold promotions until they absolutely have to promote someone by union rules.
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i am very *anti-union* for professionals (ex. engineers). As one, I don't want anyone negotiating MY salary for me. For professionals, unions often stifle productivity and the opportunity for advancement (of motivated workers) within a company. For highly skilled work, it makes no sense to tie promotions to seniority in *any* way. Often these types of unions make it hard for younger members of staff to advance, by tying promotions to seniority. Companies tend to withhold promotions until they absolutely have to promote someone by union rules.
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